In your reading of the legislation, was anything said about the price of milk, and the possible additional or welfare that might be needed to insure all children have unfettered access to milk?
The calculated "emissions" from livestock amount to little more than fly shit in the pepper. It reminds me of when my company would occasionally fall on hard times, the first people laid off were the secretaries who made minimum wage; never the managers who got us into sad shape in the first place. This legislation is pathetic; virtue signaling with bells on!
Vaclav Smil's latest essay, "Half Way between Kyoto and 2050" frames the current political climate quite accurately. He says "there has never been such a depth of scientific illiteracy and basic innumeracy as we see today. Without any physical, chemical, and biological fundamentals, and with equally poor understanding of basic economic forces, it is no wonder that people will believe anything."
Thank you for your good work!
As a total aside, are you aware of any research which compares or consider power density as an opportunity cost? The latter is a cost foregone when a decision is made between two alternatives. Power density offers a measure of that cost when comparing wind or solar, with such pitiful power densities, to gas or nuclear. The density difference means more resources are needed; those resources are the opportunity cost of renewables.
I've seen the energy returned on energy invested calculations, but in my (admittedly brief) reading of it I think it still makes the same mistakes of LCOE of not taking in the overbuilding needed for wind and solar.
Thanks. I've looked at EROI also, and you are right - both are flawed when used to compare energy sources. Penguin Empire referred a recent paper "The Economic Opportunity Costs of Green Recovery Plans," by Fitzgerald and Mulligan. Hopefully, they might shed some light on methods to equate opportunity cost to power density.
arguably, they think they are part of the global elite, as do many of their staunchest supporters. won't they be surprised if their dreams come true regarding policies, but they suffer as much as the rest of us
Very informative article; well done. So many people, including those in governing positions, have no idea what it takes to bring food to the table. Is there any greater human suffering than famine? I don’t think so – recall, e.g., the Holodomor, the Irish potato famine, and on a much smaller scale the Donner Party.
The grip “climate change” and “greenhouse gasses” has on people is incredible. It’s the Chicken Little story redux. Human nature I guess, see Ecclesiastes 1-9.
Nailed it again! You guys keep up the great work!! Get ready for an uprising! What starts in other liberal countries/states Scandinavian / pacific NW California/Canada/ NEast coast US always finds its way to the heartland. The people are eventually going to crack and some serious push back will finally happen 🤞 the Chevron deference is a good start on rolling back all this massive overreaching by federal agencies. Good riddance, the lawyers win again…..
Absolutely. Again the apathy of the American people is mind numbing. We are so good at innovation and producing so much food and energy it masks the devious work the greeniacs/climate alarmists are pushing for.
I assume most of the people on this substack are familiar with the biogenic carbon cycle. For those who are not, watch the video by Frank Mitloehner at the following site:
The Biogenic Carbon Cycle and Cattle - Samantha Werth
Thank you for doing this calculation. It would be also good to calculate (based on the IPCC formula) the temperature increase that would purported be averted. It will be infinitesimal.
I grew up on a family row crop farm, we grew onions, sugar beets, wheat, and beans in the end. Onions was the money crop. We had a good year one in five, and that year it was a struggle to avoid loosing all your money ro capitol gains tax. When my oldest brother past, no one wanted it, it was just too hard. So it's gone.
What if each cow is equipped with a methane accumulator. Could they escape the tax, generate power and sell to the grid? Earn a tax depletion allowance as a QMGA (Quardradped Methane Generation Animal) Could the farmers join OPEC (Organization of Personal Energy-generating Critters). Inquiring minds need to know and mock.
In your reading of the legislation, was anything said about the price of milk, and the possible additional or welfare that might be needed to insure all children have unfettered access to milk?
The calculated "emissions" from livestock amount to little more than fly shit in the pepper. It reminds me of when my company would occasionally fall on hard times, the first people laid off were the secretaries who made minimum wage; never the managers who got us into sad shape in the first place. This legislation is pathetic; virtue signaling with bells on!
Vaclav Smil's latest essay, "Half Way between Kyoto and 2050" frames the current political climate quite accurately. He says "there has never been such a depth of scientific illiteracy and basic innumeracy as we see today. Without any physical, chemical, and biological fundamentals, and with equally poor understanding of basic economic forces, it is no wonder that people will believe anything."
Thank you for your good work!
As a total aside, are you aware of any research which compares or consider power density as an opportunity cost? The latter is a cost foregone when a decision is made between two alternatives. Power density offers a measure of that cost when comparing wind or solar, with such pitiful power densities, to gas or nuclear. The density difference means more resources are needed; those resources are the opportunity cost of renewables.
I've seen the energy returned on energy invested calculations, but in my (admittedly brief) reading of it I think it still makes the same mistakes of LCOE of not taking in the overbuilding needed for wind and solar.
Thanks. I've looked at EROI also, and you are right - both are flawed when used to compare energy sources. Penguin Empire referred a recent paper "The Economic Opportunity Costs of Green Recovery Plans," by Fitzgerald and Mulligan. Hopefully, they might shed some light on methods to equate opportunity cost to power density.
Thank you again for your great work!
The West is on a suicide mission with its insane climate policies. Its leaders are "useful idiots" of the global elite.
They just have no idea how they are actively undermining the fundamental sectors of society. That or they don't care.
arguably, they think they are part of the global elite, as do many of their staunchest supporters. won't they be surprised if their dreams come true regarding policies, but they suffer as much as the rest of us
Very informative article; well done. So many people, including those in governing positions, have no idea what it takes to bring food to the table. Is there any greater human suffering than famine? I don’t think so – recall, e.g., the Holodomor, the Irish potato famine, and on a much smaller scale the Donner Party.
The grip “climate change” and “greenhouse gasses” has on people is incredible. It’s the Chicken Little story redux. Human nature I guess, see Ecclesiastes 1-9.
Nailed it again! You guys keep up the great work!! Get ready for an uprising! What starts in other liberal countries/states Scandinavian / pacific NW California/Canada/ NEast coast US always finds its way to the heartland. The people are eventually going to crack and some serious push back will finally happen 🤞 the Chevron deference is a good start on rolling back all this massive overreaching by federal agencies. Good riddance, the lawyers win again…..
Let's hope it doesn't need to get as bad as it is in Europe before people wake up here.
Absolutely. Again the apathy of the American people is mind numbing. We are so good at innovation and producing so much food and energy it masks the devious work the greeniacs/climate alarmists are pushing for.
I assume most of the people on this substack are familiar with the biogenic carbon cycle. For those who are not, watch the video by Frank Mitloehner at the following site:
The Biogenic Carbon Cycle and Cattle - Samantha Werth
Clear Center UC Davis
https://clear.ucdavis.edu/explainers/biogenic-carbon-cycle-and-cattle
Methane is a flow gas. If the herd size stays the same, the amount of methane in the air produced by cattle, stays the same.
Sadly, they are trying to "nudge" people into shrinking the herd size.
In time it will be imported dairy and meat from China. Truly idiotic clerks show they can out idiotclerk every other country's idiotclerks.
Yep. They didn't want to make it a tax on consumers because that would be more transparent.
Taxing the production of food is a recipe for misery, poverty, and foreign dependence.
Yes, but when food production fails as a result of insane policies, they will blame it on climate change.
Totally agree.
Thank you for doing this calculation. It would be also good to calculate (based on the IPCC formula) the temperature increase that would purported be averted. It will be infinitesimal.
Exactly. Probably 0.000002 degrees C by 2100.
At least Denmark politics have 6 years to correct their fecklessness. The EU has 27 members, without a single economic development advocate.
I grew up on a family row crop farm, we grew onions, sugar beets, wheat, and beans in the end. Onions was the money crop. We had a good year one in five, and that year it was a struggle to avoid loosing all your money ro capitol gains tax. When my oldest brother past, no one wanted it, it was just too hard. So it's gone.
I had no idea you were a farm kid. No wonder I like you
Your old tractor looks like it was designed to comply with the regime's new tailpipe emissions expectations.
I was waiting for someone to say that! Thanks for reading Ken!
We had one of those old pedal John Deere toys with the chain drive. If I remember it was pretty well used up by the time I came along
Water vapor, clouds, ice, snow create 30% albedo which makes the Earth cooler not warmer.
W/o GHE there is no water and Earth goes lunarific, a barren rock ball, 400 K lit side, 100 K dark refuting a warming GHE.
“TFK_bams09” GHE heat balance graphic and ubiquitous clones don’t balance plus violate LoT.
Kinetic heat transfer processes of contiguous atmospheric molecules render a surface black body and it’s “extra” upwelling GHE energy impossible.
GHE is bogus and CAGW a scam so alarmists must resort to fear mongering lies, lawsuits, censorship and violence.
Looks like Denmark wants to follow the rest of Western Europe in revolting against all of this nonsense
How long until we get video of tractors blocking hiways
Another charge for the Climate Change POLICY Crimes Against Humanity trials.
To be held in a poor African country with sentences of subsistence farming handed out.
Need to see Schwab, Guterrez, Kerry, Obama, Piltdown Mann etc finish their lives hitched to a plow
What if each cow is equipped with a methane accumulator. Could they escape the tax, generate power and sell to the grid? Earn a tax depletion allowance as a QMGA (Quardradped Methane Generation Animal) Could the farmers join OPEC (Organization of Personal Energy-generating Critters). Inquiring minds need to know and mock.